Eron Gjoni’s Restraining Order & Inability to Stop Discussing his Ex Online

Hi all! Today I’m writing to update on the Eron Gjoni lawsuit situation; wherein our narcissistic, jilted subject faces the grave injustice of being legally forced not to discuss Zoe Quinn; an injunction which he seems physically incapable of following.

When we last left Creep Throat, he was none too pleased with the article I wrote two days ago doubting the reality of his pending litigation. He made a few statements (which made little sense to anyone, even his fans) then promised me a better explanation in a few hours. For the sake of charity I gave him the rest of the day, then looked over what news I could find this morning.

A few hours after my conversation with Gjoni on Twitter, some #GamerGate dude on Reddit posted this account of a hearing in the matter of Eron vs. His Ex and the Fempire. TW, because this is Reddit; and the comments to his post especially prove (to me at least) why a protection order seems like a smart idea for Quinn. But here’s what this anonymous witness says went down in the court:

(I am aware that some people want to keep ZQ issues separate from gamergate, but given that this community very generously crowdfunded Eron’s legal defense, I wanted to make sure that those who are interested know what’s going on.)

ZQ filed and was granted an ex parte 209a order against Eron in mid September and on Tuesday it was extended for a year. Note that this is a physical abuse prevention order. It is meant to protect victims of physical abuse, not victims of internet harassment (you want a 258e for that). (Issues relevant to 209a orders that were in the affidavit but not brought up at the hearing are addressed in the footer of this post.*)

The reason you haven’t heard anything about the case is that the order contains a written in PRIOR RESTRAINT ON FREE SPEECH, which is absolutely absurd (ZQ reported his participation in this KoP stream to the police as a violation of the ex-parte order, so now he also has to have a hearing for that). I however, have no such restraint, and thus it is entirely within my rights to discuss public court hearings and public court documents. And should any overly litigious public figures with questionable ethical principles think about changing that, I’d recommend they take a look at Nilan v. Valenti first.

My memory is mediocre, so take my version of events with a grain of salt.

So Eron’s not being charged with a crime or civil infraction, I guess (I’m not a lawyer); but he is fighting a restraining order Quinn filed against him. Note that he would not need legal funds if he didn’t want to protest/appeal the restraining order. If he didn’t care to dispute it, he wouldn’t even have to come to court. 

Apparently, It’s so *important* for Gjoni to be able to discuss his ex online, he’s willing to appear in court to defend his right to do so. It also sounds like he’s willing to violate the restraining order by talking about her to #gamergaters. Doing this forces Quinn to monitor Gjoni’s behavior and report infractions to the court, although it’s apparent she wants no contact with him (hence the restraining order.)

And to the #gamergaters eating this shit up, it’s Eron whose the victim here, even though speaking and writing at length about his ex has always been a free choice for him. His right to talk about Quinn’s life, work history, etc. apparently trumps Quinn’s right to be safe from the harassment and intimidation of an angry mob. At least, that’s what these guys think is true.

More from Eron’s anonymous bestie (note that he’s paraphrasing):


Her:

Eron posted personal information about me online. As a result, people online have threatened me with physical harm. Eron continues to engage with the mob that is harassing me with no regard to my personal safety. Specifically, Eron threatened to release more information on his gofundme page.

Eron’s attorney:

I will speak on my client’s behalf, and then acquiesce to my client. Zoe Quinn is a public figure and criticism of public figures is protected free speech (with the specific example of criticism of her interaction with TFYC). ZQ was already receiving harassment before Eron’s blog post. Eron has never threatened ZQ with violence and has never encouraged anyone to threaten ZQ with violence. Thezoepost was a story about Eron’s life experiences and did not even include ZQ’s real name.

Eron:

[Did not get to speak at all because the judge cut his attorney off to ask more questions of the plaintiff]

The judge didn’t really say much and started writing half way through the arguments.

*He did not allow Eron’s attorney to cross examine the plaintiff

*He did not allow admission of Eron’s evidence

*He refused the Attorney’s first amendment objection to the gag clause

*He mentioned nothing about his reasoning besides a vague reference to ‘intimidation’.

Order extended until x/x/2015

There’s some issues with this “defense”. Let me go through them.

First of all: thezoepost mentions Zoe Quinn by her full name six times in the text; and many more times in the screenshots from her Facebook. So for Eron’s lawyer to state court that it doesn’t is a huge lie. 

Second of all: There are also photos of Quinn in thezoepost and screencaps of her facebook page; this is not some anonymous dude venting about a disappointing life experience. This is a clear effort to trash Quinn’s reputation and ruin her personal, professional and romantic life. I know that because Eron fucking states so in the TL;DR at the top of the novella-length post. (“This exists to warn you to be cautious of Zoe.”)

Thirdly: being harassed before Eron wrote thezoepost serves to show why he did it. Gjoni knew there was an audience of men who disliked Quinn, and thought he could mobilize them to get the revenge he wants, but didn’t want to ruin his reputation for. Gjoni’s made many attempts to reframe thezoepost in the context of abuse awareness or whatever; but in my dealings with him it’s apparent he has no remorse for Zoe’s harassment, except to the extent that it makes him look bad or legally culpable.

Even when told through the lens of someone with no desire to represent Quinn fairly, her desire to be left the fuck alone sounds eminently reasonable. And since the the problematic behavior Eron engages in the most is remorselessly stirring the pot of angry Redditors and 4channers who want to rape her to death a gag clause seems reasonable too. That’s because Gjoni’s inalienable right to write whatever the hell he wants (i.e. freedom of expression) is curtailed by his ex’s inalienable right to live her life without being pilloried, threatened, and harassed by Eron’s internet friends.

To conclude; I believe it’s probably true Zoe Quinn filed a restraining order against Gjoni. It would explain why she did not comment on the earlier inquiries I made regarding this matter (the gag clause works both ways, yo) and is supported by the fact that Eron really can’t seem to shut up about her.

If Eron Gjoni was as over Quinn as he pretends to be, he wouldn’t need $1800 to fight a restraining order she filed against him. He wouldn’t correct every person on Twitter who assumes Quinn left the relationship instead of himself, wouldn’t state (over and over again) that Quinn said she loved him first. These are the kinds of things someone says when they’re still hurt over their ex hurting them.

Here’s why I think Eron can’t let this go. Quinn’s made him internet famous for being (in his own words)  “a devilishly attractive beta cuck.” He has hundreds of fans from #gamergate, although Eron’s only meaningful connection to the gaming industry was the one he had with Quinn. If he was forced to stop talking about her he would have little to share with #gamergate’s stated mission; and would attain the status of a dried-up lolcow. I think he keeps stirring the pot on this issue so that his newfound “fans” won’t lose interest in him.

The irony is that Eron’s problems would go away if he could just let this all go. It’s apparent in this little tete-a-tete I noticed today on Twitter:

yo eron, here’s a crazy idea w/r/t your legal woes: how about you shut the fuck up and go away for awhile

Eron’s reply: “Nah.”

Eron Gjoni convinces dozens of idiots to give him at least $1800 for “legal fees”. But is the suit real?

"There's a sucker born every minute" - David Hannum, accurately predicting the behavior of #GamerGaters two hundred years later

As some dude 200 years ago said; there’s a sucker born every minute.

When we last left Eron Gjoni, he was…well actually, he was browsing this blog. My tracker shows the writer of thezoepost visiting my site every so often; Gjoni even typed his own name into this blog’s search engine. What a narcissist, huh?

So according to Eron lately, the Khaleesi of SJWs, Zoe Quinn (aka The Undoxxed, Queen of all Bees) has turned up again to unfairly torment him. Or maybe it’s just the consequences of his manipulative attempt to engineer the professional, personal, and romantic ruin of a woman who hurt his feelz catching up with him. Or maybe, it’s a lie designed to capatalize on #GamerGater’s hatred of all things Quinn to get him a month or two of rent money. Because I can’t find any proof that this lawsuit is actually happening.

Here’s the 411. According to Eron, his ex-girlfriend is suing him for his involvement in the #GamerGate hate mob which he gleefully incited & whose attention he continues to bask in. Here’s what he wrote on his own blog when he solicited the support of his #GamerGate bannermen:

Alright. Quick summary: I’m Eron. I made thezoepost wordpress that got banned from the internet for days until the internet finally gave up, and that revealed information to set the stage for what is now known as #gamergate. Zoe didn’t like that, and decided to abuse the courts, so I made a GoFundMe donation page to help with legal fees. For reasons that are as of yet unclear, GoFundMe took the page down while I was just shy of the $1800 goal.

Hmm. This lawsuit lacks the intricate detail I’ve come to expect from Gjoni. For example, with what crime has Gjoni been charged? Is it civil court, or a criminal matter? Did Quinn bring the matter to a state court or a federal one? Is there a case number or something I can look up? I’m asking because I’ve been looking around the internet and I can’t find anything to confirm Gjoni’s claims.

I’m not saying he’s a liar, although Gjoni has lied to me in the past. I’m saying that if Gjoni was really being sued, I’d expect another 10,000 word hurt-feelz blog post and a bunch of scanned pages from his ex’s lawyer. That’s kind of what Gjoni does when something he percieves as unfair happens to him. Confidential and ethical, he ain’t.

I contacted Zoe Quinn to confirm the allegations; but at press time she had not responded with a comment. Nor could any of my SJW friends hip to her scene confirm the allegations Gjoni’s making. I’ll update my post if she does. But let me let Eron finish his plea to send him your money via PayPal.

Within two hours, people donated a total $1,855. At which point, GoFundMe deleted the donations page for an unspecified ToS violation.

I emailed GoFundMe to ask if they at least refunded the money, and what the ToS violation was. They answered the financial query, but ignored the ToS query. They said the money was available in my WePay account (GoFundMe uses this as a backend). I checked the account, and it had $1689…

But again, they ignored my question as to why the page was taken down. I sent another email asking why the page was taken down, but they haven’t responded to it.

I will set up a paypal soon, and be super transparent about the donations coming in if people want to keep donating. I can probably eat up the remaining $165 myself, but I am curious to see what the community votes on donating the excess funds to if a bunch of those get raised.

Am I missing something here? What is so ethical about soliciting donations specifically from #GamerGaters  to help you with your #GamerGate related legal fees? Is crowdfunding only ethical now when Eron Gjoni does it? And doesn’t the rapid response on their part prove Gjoni and #GamerGate are internet BFFS, whose favorite shared interest is hating his ex? Furthermore, why are the same #GamerGaters who were so keen on getting Gjoni’s ex audited for tax fraud over her crowdfunding history practically trampling each other to give Gjoni their thousands over GoFundMe and PayPal without a shred of evidence that Gjoni’s actually being sued? And how bad do you have to be to get your campaign kicked off GoFundMe in less than a day? That’s the same web site which crowdfunded a six-figure pension for the cop who shot Mike Brown.

Let me explicate on why this bothers me.

Before Zoe Quinn released her screencaps of the chatroom #burgersandfries, Eron Gjoni gave an interview there. One of the questions he was asked was about a crowdfunding campaign Quinn started when her pocketbook was allegedly stolen. Eron could not disprove that she was mugged, but still spoke at length about the amount of money she had recieved- several thousand dollars. But now when Eron needs money for a claim he can’t doesn’t prove (or doesn’t want to prove), a different standard applies. So why is it when Eron says he needs money, nobody questions his motives?

It’s very fishy, isn’t it?. This campaign is curiously timed with Gjoni’s departure from his job, and the cynic in me wonders if he’s just conning #GamerGaters for their money. Despite the use of #GamerGate buzzwords there’s nothing transparent about this donation drive. Unless Gjoni wants to release the name of his representation, I can’t imagine how he can prove the money’s being spent on a lawyer. Donating whatever extra amount he gets (or saying he will, at least) does little to clarify where exactly these “legal fees” are going.

MRAs of Savage Love: Seandr, the asshole from Seattle

Well it finally seems like that Quinnspiracy thing is simmering down. #gamergate’s been discredited, Zoe Quinn’s back to making games, and Eron Gjoni is still (*still*) defending himself/pining away at his Twitter account. The FBI is on the case, and all’s right in the world.

But a woman’s work is never done; and that goes double when the work in question is writing about misogyny. So we’re back with the next installment of my little series “MRAs of Savage Love”, documenting their sexist, faptastic and often off-topic advice.

Before I begin, you might be asking “But Idle, why waste your valuable writing time on these douchebags? It’s just the comments thread; any idiot can write any foolish thing there. Dan Savage himself usually gives great advice.”

Dear reader, you’d be right: as MRAs go, those on Savage Love are neither particularly caustic or obvious in their prejudice against women. It’s more “yes but” and “if only she…” kind of sexism, the soft-sell where it seems like the advice giver is really doing their best thinking. (Also the Stranger might ban them if they called women “cunts”.) Paradoxically, this makes SLMRAs insidious, because actual women have been known to actually write Dan looking for advice about boyfriends who behave in a manner these shitlords condone.

My concern is that a woman writing Dan for advice might actually read what these jerks are writing her, and not knowing any better take it to heart; and rethink leaving that abusive alcoholic, or the man who torments them by bringing up their sexual history. Heaven forbid these people writing letters in good faith might actually think this faptastic, wrong-headed ‘advice’ is actually useful in some way. To these jerks, the actual problems of LWs are twisted around the warped image of sex&gender they carry around in their heads. That’s why I write about these winners.

This brings us to today’s guest: a delightful fellow named seandr. IRL, seandr seems like the kind of guy who seems alright until you invite him to the neighborhood block party; but once he gets a few drinks in him reveals himself to be that guy. (The one who makes eyes at lesbians, and talks about “the wife” (his wife) as if she’s a soft furnishing.)

About half the time he gives what I’d call ‘faptastic’ advice, like this advice he gave to an uncircumcised man who comes too soon: (as always, the bold is my emphasis)

UNCUT: You’re 20. I could only last 3 minutes or so when I was a youth in my first LTR. Next woman I slept with, I could suddenly last as long as I wanted. The intervening dry spell and being with a new partner seemed to allow my brain to break out of the pattern that had been established in the previous relationship.

Enjoy your sensitive dick – it’s a gift. The solution to your problem lies somewhere in your head. With luck, you’ll eventually stumble upon it.

P.S. I’ve found talking during sex allows me to fight back untimely orgasms. Dirty talk, clean talk, or words of encouragement if she’s close to coming. Maybe that or something similar will enable you to pull yourself out of your head when you feel one coming on.

Is it the advice the reader asked for? Yes. It’s also an excuse for seandr to play show and tell with his penis and discuss all the sex he has with women. You wonder if he’s compensating for something?

But that couldn’t be. Seandr gets all the sex, because he talks about it even when his sex life isn’t the topic at hand. Here, he turns a discussion about Ray Rice into one about how his girlfriends all beat him:

At the start of the video she backhands him in the face, and she was coming at him again when he hit her. I guess we’re just gong to pretend those things didn’t happen?

A man should never hit a woman under any circumstances. But a woman should never hit a man. It’s hard for me to cast a woman like Janay as “battered victim” when she obviously feels entitled to hit him whenever the whim strikes.

I’ve experienced a number of domestic violence incidents in my life, all at the hands of my female partners. I’ve been clubbed in the back of the head (in public!) with a backpack full of books while trying to walk away from an argument. I’ve been surprise attacked with a volley of punches while sitting at my desk working, and another time while I was sleeping. Yes, sleeping. I’ve been shoved. I’ve had a book thrown at me. I’ve been blocked from exiting rooms.

Apparently, like Janay’s backhand, those incidents don’t really count.

Apparently in seandr’s world, having a book thrown at you or being prevented from leaving a room is comparable to being cold-cocked by a person fifty pounds heavier than you. Glad we cleared that up.

And seandr would know about starting catfights; even the lesbos want a piece of him!

@seatackled: I see. So I deserved to be attacked by my girlfriends because one night a lesbian friend and I flirted and made googly eyes at each other?

Please, do the right thing and remove yourself from the dating pool.

To which I say: cool story, bro. But don’t let my write-up make you think seandr hasn’t got any humility:

@seatackled: you gave no reason for anyone to think that there’s any verbal expression of consent.

Consent for what? Enjoying each other’s company? Laughing at each other’s jokes? Appreciating a moment of mutual attraction? What in the fuck are you talking about?

If you’ve never had the experience of gazing into the eyes of a woman who’s been taken in by your charm, bummer for you.

The irony here is that I am the King of not approaching women who have given me obvious indications of interest. Something about that dynamic makes me very nervous. In fact, on many occasions, women have lost patience with my inaction and taken matters into their own hands (although most of them just give up).

There are many more kinds of men in the world than you seem to think there are.

Have you, seandr? Had ‘the experience of gazing into the eyes of a woman who’s been taken in (nice passive) by your charms’, that is? Or do you just stare at them, livid with jealousy? Because there’s something weird how he writes as if the letter writers are not having sex with other people, but with him:

@LavaGirl: And you say it’s her problem for having limits and it makes her bad in bed?

A woman can set whatever limits she wants around her sexual repertoire, but I’m not going to give her a medal just for showing up.

He also has the charming habit of calling women who disagree with him “babe”, as if they too are dating him. This is why seandr’s an MRA: the way he puts down women (both LWs, commenters, and those in the public eye) his relentless opining about his own sex life & sexual history belie the premise that he sees women as his equals, and not as living sex toys for his consumption.

As an example, let’s look at this post where seandr discusses porn and feminism (the double whammy!) There’s even mansplaining!

@LavaGirl: you lump Feminism with the Tea Party?

I haven’t “lumped” anything. I’ve simply named them both, along with Christianity, as examples of doctrine.

” irrational biases” you say, about what?

Women who hate men, for example, can find ideas that resonate in some feminist writing. Of course, this example only works if you believe that hating men is an irrational bias.

You think porn shows men how to treat women as they want to be treated ?

Huh? Sorry, babe, but given the endless variety of women out there, there’s really no such thing as How Women Want To Be Treated. In fact, I don’t think I’ve had sex with two women who wanted to be treated exactly the same way. Of course, you’d have to be the sort of person who fucks women to know this.

There’s also an endless variety of porn out there, and the savvy porn consumer can definitely borrow ideas to enhance his woman’s pleasure. Many times I’ve sat in front of the computer, dick in hand, watching a scene and thinking “Hmm, that’s interesting, I wonder if she’d enjoy that.” Sometimes she has.

Finally, I’ve been with women who were turned on by their ability to turn me on, and porn has definitely helped me identify what turns me on.

Hmm. I can’t decide which mental image he’s provided with sums him up better: seandr as the guy in front of a computer beating off; or seandr, the guy who repeatedly reminds you he has sex with women. His casual condescension is so irritating that part of me isn’t surprised that his *numerous* girlfriends have a tendency to lose their shit and want to beat him senseless. If I had the misfortune of dating this oppositional, mansplaining jerk I might lose my shit too.

– Caroline.